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    Dravak core principles or experience of NDE .

    Post  Dravak on Thu May 17, 2012 10:04 am

    Look am not claiming to be a expert of NDE , I can only claim to be a expert of my experience , and the way the world percieve NDEers...

    The core dealing with NDEer is same as the core dealings with the world.
    Confidence , this is the hardest , cause on the way , everybody will try to make you doubt , change your perspectief .
    Insult you , envy you , pitty you ... anything to shake your confidence .
    That the experience is real .

    Thus chasing us to seek shelter in company of people that understand .
    The warmth , the need for acknowledgement .
    This we as fellow NDEer have to embrace them , no matter what stage we are in !
    IT doesn´t matter people religion background race sexual gender , preference ... cause if it were not for others who welcomed me .
    I would have snub it off as a dream , bleh wierd dream .
    This is the most crucial state most of us understand !
    Do not deny new NDEer this warmth .

    Now the next stage is the hardest , is self reflection and learning to let go of the warmth , this stage is the most difficult in my road.
    Cause the NDEer were loving warm and made me feel welcome .
    I simply went different route , found the same argument philosphy .
    Distraction , warmth and hatred in any other subject in the world .
    Sure I couldn´t talk about NDE itself, but then again .
    I knew If I wanted to discuss or reveal something that was potential usefull , the medium to do it was there .
    The following and people warmth is there .

    Same as I will come here for Cleo , no matter what she snaps at me.
    Deep inside she is so loving Razz

    Next do not be afraid to tell your version of truth , but never ever ACCEPT it as the UNIVERSAL truth , it is still your version .
    While some people might agree with you , some might say it is rubbishe.
    You do not need to defend it , cause it is your version .
    And be flexible , be adaptive if people do point valid arguments.
    Instead of denying it embrace it , cause after all if we all agree .
    there is nothing to evolve other then we are stuck here without knowing our purpose .

    Well this is what I am writing so far , it is a bit crude , maybe I should edit it to make it more fancy , easier to understand for people.
    Who don´t know me at all ... but I believe that if people want to make effort , they should be able to understand this wierd language writting of mine .

    Dravak .


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    Post  Admin on Thu May 17, 2012 12:22 pm

    Oops, my bad dravak,..I posted to the wrong thread.

    Oh, you should have admin. status and I see that it's not showing up,.. I'll attempt to fix that.

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    Post  Admin on Thu May 17, 2012 2:56 pm

    Dravak,

    You should post your nde on the support forum. That forum is NOT up for debate, this one is.

    All such discussions and arguments will be moved to either the general or science forum. The Support forum will be used for SUPPORT and nothing more, and your thread in regard to your nde will be YOUR thread plain and simple.

    The general and science forums will be pretty much anything goes, as long as it's legal. study

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    Post  Dravak on Thu May 17, 2012 4:58 pm

    Cleo don´t worry about the mod or admin rights , and everything I write is up for debate Cleo ..

    The more people debate , the more input others get .
    It is to me not about right or wrong ..
    Win or Lose , It is evolving that counts .

    Look maybe I will post my whole experience I did on the other forum here.
    And that is my experience , this is about the trip I took to become .
    More stable , more the old me ....

    Sure still have pains and my gf and me broke up , she just couldn´t handle it anymore ... so not everything is sunshine and butterflies.
    But then again , I feel more the old me pre NDE and a lot more at peace.

    Yes I do long back to see the light and when that days come , I will be smiling , but as for now .
    I am just happy to be who I am again .

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    Post  Admin on Thu May 17, 2012 5:16 pm

    You're showing up now as admin.. Just so no one assumes this place to be my board, I'd like there to be as many admins as possible. No one will be banned as everyone's opinions and observations are important. We just have to be careful about legalities and only at that time would there be need to perhaps take steps.

    I'm sorry to hear that you're still going through some really tough times. I certainly sympathize. Crying or Very sad

    Your nde will in time come in handy (you'll see). Mine is always there, and it keeps me going, trying to figure things out and seeing if anyone else has.

    I'm sure that you'll eventually meet someone that you'll be able to share with and feel assured and safe. You're also bound to meet some of us out here that know what you're going through. You're not alone.

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    Post  Dravak on Fri May 25, 2012 3:40 pm

    Well no rest for the weary , or is it the wicked ...

    Seems as soon I made a nice plan , with a satisfying conclusion to all .
    I guess fate has a key of throwing a monkey wrench into my plans .

    Guess this one is going to hurt big time .
    Ah well we shall see how it plays out in time .

    Will write about it when it is concluded .

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    Post  Admin on Fri May 25, 2012 5:42 pm

    Well no rest for the weary , or is it the wicked ...

    Seems as soon I made a nice plan , with a satisfying conclusion to all .
    I guess fate has a key of throwing a monkey wrench into my plans .

    Guess this one is going to hurt big time .
    Ah well we shall see how it plays out in time .

    Will write about it when it is concluded .

    I don't believe in fate, as it's basically determinism. If we were fated or determined than we're puppets and not much of anything else. I think that it moves us away from responsibility toward one another, as in, "it's meant to be",.. in answer to that "my ass, let's get moving on changing what we don't like". Cool

    Anyway, what exactly is going on with you, Dravak? Sometimes, just talking about stuff with others releases some of its weight.

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    Post  Dravak on Fri May 25, 2012 9:24 pm

    It is hard to explain Cleo , see am done healing meself and others around and want to move on .

    travel the world a bit , end up at the sea .
    I always enjoy the ocean , hehe am a fish who cannot swim .
    Well sadly something impossible came up again .
    Somebody in need that will drain me , this one might be a bit too much for even me to chew .

    Tried to steer clear of it 2 times , guess have no other choice to finish what was started .
    Yeah can´t go into too much detail hun , cause of trust .
    But have a feeling this one will break me definetly .

    Maybe cause am in love , while good feeling , I know this one will end badly .. very badly ...you know sometimes ,you feel that precognition.
    This is it , play my last cards in life , win or lose Smile

    Deck is heavily stacked against me on this one .
    That is why I call things fate.. since I love challenges .
    Everytime another one pops up out of nowhere more impossible then the last .

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    Post  Admin on Fri May 25, 2012 9:43 pm

    I love the ocean! I used to talk to it simply because of its magnificence. It took my life and gave me hope. Smile

    I wish I had a cure for love! I really do! Well, at least romantic love. I'd give it to all my children so if it hit them, they could take the cure and think rationally. So many commit suicide over the damn thing, while others kill over and for it. Our poor brains!

    Hang in there, Dravak, and remember that many of us get stupid over love.

    It's funny, because we as observers stand idly by watching ourselves respond to attempted manipulation by nature.

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